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TLV Mods ([personal profile] bargemods) wrote2008-10-22 03:04 pm
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TLV - Potential Application Discussion (Old Form)

POTENTIAL APPLICATION DISCUSSION


Thinking about applying for a character, but not quite sure if they're a good fit? This post is dedicated to discussion of that very thing! A jury of your peers will help you in deciding whether or not a character you suddenly have a hankering for would be a fit for the Barge!

THIS IS NOT COMPULSORY. Nobody HAS to participate, and nobody HAS to post here before they post an application! This is just for people who are unsure and would like to have a discussion before they apply.

However, there are some rules.

1. Mods are the final decision makers. So, a lot of people love your character? Got great feedback? But then-- whaaaat?-- you post your app and it's REJECTED? GASP! Sorry, approval here does NOT substitute mod approval. Do NOT use this thread as basis for whining at the mods if your character is rejected. If you do, this thread is getting shut down. (PS: This rule applies EVEN IF ONE OF THE MODS GIVES YOU GOOD FEEDBACK IN THIS THREAD)
2. No content-less posts. I don't want to see any "OMG YES!" or any "HELL NO"s. You have to provide reasons. This post is for constructive discussion.
3. No flaming. This kinda goes with the above. If you think the character is fine but the player can't pull it off, BE CONSTRUCTIVE and don't insult the player.
4. BE HONEST. Speaks for itself. You think a character would be a terrible fit? Then don't say "Oh, it'll be wonderful!"
5. No plotting. A lot of times, people get all excited about making up plots for characters who aren't even in the game yet (and who MAY NOT BE ACCEPTED), leaving those who are in the game with nothing to do with... well, nothing to do. It's distracting and the excitement over "what-ifs" diverts too much from the actual game.
6. Don't take this personally. You do not equal your (potential) character. If everybody thinks it's a lousy character who wouldn't fit, it's NOT an attack on you or your RPing.

Put the character's name as the subject line (ONE CHARACTER PER COMMENT), and be sure to fill out the following form. Yes, some of the questions seem stupid, but these are things we'd like you to keep in mind BEFORE you apply for a character.



HAVE FUN.

The Ninth Doctor

[identity profile] soundof-drums.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: The Doctor (NUMBAH NINE)
Series: Doctor Who
Warden or Inmate: Warden
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yup
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Very.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: ABSOLUTELY ACTIVE.
Why do you want them?: Because the Ninth Doctor is a character I've played before, genuinely enjoy playing, and I've been looking forward to the opportunity to play him with an active Rose and Jack.
Potential Concerns: ...I already play the Master. Which would make it awkward. Also, I already play Major West, so I'd be playing MY OWN TWIN AND MY OWN ARCH-ENEMY. Plus, I fear seeing a Doctor would discourage other Doctor RPers, and I'd REALLY like to see a Doctor who isn't... me.

The Hitchhiker

[identity profile] soundof-drums.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Hitchhiker (NO REAL NAME)
Series: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (i.e. the real one, not the remake, so NO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WOMAN WHO SHOOTS HERSELF)
Warden or Inmate: Inmate
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yup
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: In a... weird way. I don't think he'd use the journals much at all, but he does like to interact with others... in his own insane, eager-to-please (and eager-to-maim D:) way.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: I'd make him active in them, although it'd be a challenge to think up how he'd react to them.
Why do you want them?: He's my favorite character from my favorite horror movie. It'd be a challenge to play somebody who's THAT NUTS but pretty incapable of hiding it, and I really, really love the Slaughterhouse/Sawyer family dynamics. Of course, the family wouldn't be in the game, so there's a problem. But I find him an intriguing character that I want to explore some more.
Potential Concerns: He's a bit of an obscure character with no real background, no name, he's insane, I can't see him as redeemable, and he can barely get along with anybody who's not in his family. He likes to move around a lot (presumably), which he wouldn't be able to do on the Barge, and he probably wouldn't use the journals much. Also... he's a cannibal.

Since he's a weird character and most people only know about Leatherface, here's one of Hitchhiker's scenes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-73BUDHcCCc) so you know who the hell I'm talking about.

MORE CLIPS (warning: spoilers, violence, and LOTS OF SCREAMING):
Meet the family! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmy5MO1XVcE)
DINNERTIME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW34QcOLZyY)
Edited 2008-10-22 23:00 (UTC)

Erik Lehnsherr (Magneto)

[identity profile] fractured-will.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Erik Lehnsherr (Magneto)
Series: X-Men (film)
Warden or Inmate: Warden, though morally grey.
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yes.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Despite his hatred of 'homo-inferior', yes he would interact. I think the journals would amuse him and I can imagine his curiosity over this strange boat of souls.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Yup on both.
Why do you want them?: I played him before, last year or some time ago. His personality would be fun to explore and likewise, how long his neutral attitude towards humans could remain 'I'll tolerate you, and not try to kill you'.
Potential Concerns: His entire philosophy is based on the terrors he experienced through the Holocaust so he's got something of a Hitler complex. His film history is intentionally vague beyond the fact that he was a co-founder of Xavier's school and helped recruit students. Beyond that and the events in film, there's not much to go on unless I dipped into comic history. Which I'd hate to do.
Edited 2008-10-22 21:32 (UTC)

Pyro

[identity profile] soundof-drums.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Pyro
Series: X-Men (I'd either do 616 Pyro or Evolution Pyro)
Warden or Inmate: Warden (possibly inmate for Evo). 616 Pyro redeemed himself before his death; he's gone full circle, so there's no reason for him to be an Inmate. Evolution Pyro, ehh, he's a harder sell either way.
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yup
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: God yes
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Very active
Why do you want them?: I've played Pyro for uhhh... what, 8 years now? He's the easiest muse for me to slip in and out of, my favorite character from... well, frankly, ANYTHING ever. I enjoy the depth his character's been given in the comics, and I love the humor of Evolution Pyro. Plus, when I play Evo Pyro, I get a huge kick out of HOW FUCKING ANNOYING HE CAN BE.
Potential Concerns: I've played him for 8 years, sooo there's possible burnout (LOL PYRO? BURNOUT???). Also, not sure how Evo Pyro would fit. I think he'd be a funny Warden, but not a GOOD Warden. I can't see him as much of an Inmate, though. Pyro's a sort of gray character. I don't know which Pyro I'd pick-- if I should even play him after playing him in form or another for SOOOO LONG.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I'd even be apping him for fun, or because I get kind of possessive over the character and would get annoyed (even if I don't mean to!) if somebody else applied for him-- well, unless they did him well. Then I'd actually be happy. And that is not the proper reason to apply for a character. I know I WOULD have fun with him even if I did app him for the wrong reasons, but uh... yeah.
Edited 2008-10-22 22:01 (UTC)

Ichabod Crane

[identity profile] fractured-will.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Ichabod Crane
Series: Sleepy Hollow (film)
Warden or Inmate: Warden. He's too much a rigid goodie for Inmate.
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yes.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: His curiosity would get the better of his fears, so in short yes.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Yup on both.
Why do you want them?: Another muse of old. The duality of his character is quite amusing. Ichabod is a very straight-laced, no frills, The Truth Matters! detective... whilst at the same time prone to fainting, arachniphobia, and in general acting like a teenaged girl. The idea that his mother might've been a witch could also be interesting.
Potential Concerns: Amsuing in the film, but I'm not sure how well he'd fit. His phobias can be almost one-note, kind of lulzy traits. Ichabod might also be too much like Sam, I worry.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Earl Hickey
Series: My Name Is Earl
Warden or Inmate: Warden
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yup, I believe so.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Earl'd be the type that would be curious about everything AND thing he's being a big help my commentating on things he notices.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: He'd be active in most of them.
Why do you want them?: Seriously -- he comes from a world where Karma exists, can you IMAGINE how funny that'd be for whoever's assigned to him as an Inmate? That they'd suddenly be absorbed by a reality where good things happen to them when good and random BAD things happen when they're not?
Potential Concerns: We have too many wardens =/

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Count Dracula
Series: Dracula by Bram Stoker
Warden or Inmate: Inmate
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: I believe so.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: He'd start fights with all the big men on the barge and belittle the women, and take great pleasure in doing both.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: He seems to be the type that, in spite of all things, is VERY eager to learn, so while he might be offended or angered by the effects floods and ports may have on him, he would likely still take part in many.
Why do you want them?: I need another Inmate, and sometimes playing a sexist doink is just what I need to lighten my mood.
Potential Concerns: Ros Hates Vampires :O

Re: Erik Lehnsherr (Magneto)

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
He also has kids in movieverse. There's another bit for your history. You can probably infer from there, given his age, how old they are, and that his backstory with Magda likely took place.
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Re: The Ninth Doctor

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of the forums I've seen that character on, seem to have simultaneous different incarnations of them, so, don't think discouragement would be a problem.

I do see your own simultaneous portrayal of the Master as a very unavoidable obstacle, however!
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Re: Erik Lehnsherr (Magneto)

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like the intellectual characters in this particualr forum. The Master, Lector, Marquis, Q and others, all seem to generate a really amusing dynamic. I really think it would be a beneficial character to bring over, although the problem would be in identifying a reason not to simply return him to old motivations, in general.

Also has that interesting mentor personality, which is probably lacking among most of the character cast.
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[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope none of my writing has generated dislike for our fanged brethren... :)

I have seen your portrayal of this character and often thought it would suit this forum much better than the other! I really like how you put both aattention to fictional (Stoker making Vlad an ancestor in the genology, not the self-same character) and historical (cultural attitudes) detail in the main profile, while actually using it in the resulting writing. To me, that made it well beyond the walking stereotype this character is so often sadly shown as.

I'd be interested, however, in what sorts of abilities would be removed and retained.

[identity profile] fathersbludgeon.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd love to see Earl. Perfect active warden material. I know that isn't exactly con-crit - but in a game like this? It really suits him.

...

I think I just like Earl in general, but I can just imagine he'd have a great rapport with whoever he ends up with.

Re: Erik Lehnsherr (Magneto)

[identity profile] soundof-drums.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with E and Rei. There are hints in the movies about his background that most people wouldn't get unless they did delve into comic history (or, at least, knew enough about X-Men in general through something like Evolution, like the brief Pietro and Wanda reference in X2)-- which, honestly, if I saw a movieverse Magneto application, I'd rather see dipping into his comic history to fill in the blanks than just making something up. I mean, not with some really outlandish stuff (like Bova), but just some basics, like Magda, the twins, etc.

Barring that issue with his blank-ish history (which I figured would've been filled in in the movieverse novelizations and comics-- wouldn't know, as I haven't read them... I just assume as much), I think Magneto could be a very interesting Warden. He works well as a mentor, and I think he would take the wardening job very seriously.

Re: The Ninth Doctor

[identity profile] soundof-drums.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah... the simultaneous portrayal of the Master alone is enough to put me off playing him entirely. It's not working out so well at Poly, after all XD
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Alfred Bester

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Alfred Bester
Series: 'Babylon 5'
Warden or Inmate: Either!
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Certainly.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Yes.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Active.
Why do you want them?: Bester could potentially have a mix of intelligence, ruthlessness and creepiness, which is interesting enough to see, but with a background which would be perfect for either being a warden or dealing with them.
Potential Concerns: Without any telepathic abilities, I'm not sure if he would be intriguing enough, but still has potential. My first instinct woudl be to just downgrade them, but if Solo has absolutely none, that could be unfair, unless as a warden. The morality could go either way, because he felt absolutely justified in what he did (and doing much of it to restore his wife back to life, probably counts in his favour) and yet effectively engaged in 'war crimes'. As an inmate, he'd have no abilities, whatsoever, which would probably cut most of his persona down in a drastic way.
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Emperor Palpatine

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Darth Sideous/Emperor Palpatine
Series: 'Star Wars'
Warden or Inmate: Inmate
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yes.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Very.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Often.
Why do you want them?: Extremely manipulative, charming and yet has a wonderful expressively evil quality. Plus, it would be very interesting to see the dynamic which could play out with certain other characters from their own reality.
Potential Concerns: Without any Force abilities, he'd just be an old guy in a robe! Probably intelligent enough to choose his battles wisely, however, but my concern would be in whether that would be enough to gain the right creative mileage for them.
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Peter Venkman

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Peter Venkman
Series: 'Ghostbusters'
Warden or Inmate: Warden.
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yes.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Certainly.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Yeah!
Why do you want them?: A highly sarcastic and opportunistic force for 'good', who's seen enough bizarre stuff going on to probably adjust fairly quick in a reality like this would be. Has a personality which is unlikely to take overly serious threats at face value and inject some humour into otherwise dark situations.
Potential Concerns: Am uncertain when they'd be from! The end of the second film would require me finding and looking through it, again, but the coming game is being sited as canonical or something. Are characters able to go for canon 'updates' and stuff?
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Davros

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: Davros
Series: 'Doctor Who
Warden or Inmate: Inmate
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Sort of...
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Yes.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Probably.
Why do you want them?: Because I keep being told I should.
Potential Concerns: He's a fucking mutant in a wheelchair! How does one overcome this obstacle? :)
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The Djinn

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-22 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Character Name: The Djinn - name never known.
Series: 'The Wishmaster'.
Warden or Inmate: Inmate.
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yes.
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Definitely.
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Very.
Why do you want them?: I adore this character's portrayal and think I could do them justice. The second film actually had them in a prison, also, which did wonders for inspiration! It's a character who has, effectively, been eternally 'imprisoned', which makes for a great deal of irony.
Potential Concerns: None, in my personal view! Although stripped of powers, that was usually when the character came into its intellectual own and its most memorable. Ultimately, they're a schemer, which would seem to fit inmate category well.

References:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvzPOQRRxw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sITmI-_TCoI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fuFotTvuTzc

Re: Erik Lehnsherr (Magneto)

[identity profile] lazarusrisen.livejournal.com 2008-10-23 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I would love it if you apped Magneto. Though...I personally would like it if you could find some way to work the twins in the application, even though Pietro and Wanda aren't in the movies.

...this is mainly because I miiight want to play Pietro, but still. Go crazy Maximoff twinsies.

The Narrator / Tyler Durden

[identity profile] twodaysinblood.livejournal.com 2008-10-23 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Character Name: The Narrator (Jack) / Tyler Durden
Series: Fight Club
Warden or Inmate: Warden (Narrator as main personality)
Do they meet all rules and requirements?: Yep, I think so
Do you think they will be active and interact with others?: Yes
Would this character be active in ports and floods, or sit out?: Active! Tyler's a nosy bugger.
Why do you want them?: Because I think they're a really interesting character and because the canon is so awesome. And the Narrator is Warden material, while Tyler is a total Inmate. It would be great. (Oh, and Tyler's interaction with Prefect would be hilarious, due to his violently anti-consumerist leanings!)
Potential Concerns: Um, the split-personality, essentially I'd be playing two characters. Not sure how well that would come through, because I've never really played a character like that, especially in logs...

This post really has no point.

[identity profile] lazarusrisen.livejournal.com 2008-10-23 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
EXTERMINATE!

=D
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Re: The Narrator / Tyler Durden

[personal profile] acid_rayne 2008-10-23 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that might be a problem... They're only different characters in his own mental landscape and, even that, he discovered at the end, if memory serves right! To everyone else, they'd just be the one character. :)

Re: Ichabod Crane

[identity profile] soundof-drums.livejournal.com 2008-10-23 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think Ichabod would be a great Warden if (it's been a long time since I've seen the movie) you think he could handle the "reformer"/"quasi-therapist" part of the job description XD As it is, I would personally love it if Sam had a kindred spirit here! But anyway, those lulzy traits of his shouldn't be too much of a problem, as you'll be given a chance to explore him in greater depth! Personally, of the three characters you've put up, he looks like the most fun to me!

[identity profile] soundof-drums.livejournal.com 2008-10-23 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
While the "too many wardens" thing is a problem, I think we'll see how bad the imbalance REALLY is after we get to finally sort new Warden/Inmate pairings and knock off the people on the inactivity list.

As it is, Earl is pretty much MADE to be a Warden. I think he'd be really, really great at it, and I've seen bits of you playing him before, so I know you've got a handle on his voice. All in all, you should go for it.